This list is for puppy raisers, owner trainers, handlers, and school trainers who want to talk about the training of guide dogs and service dogs. All training methods can be discussed. Brain washing, and flaming other list members will not be allowed. Only training and problem solving related discussion will be allowed. No complainers please! Discussion topics might include training methods, house breaking, retrieving, traffic training, working on distractions, basic obedience, and many others.